WebDelphi Murders: Prosecutors Say Richard Allen May Not Have Acted Alone VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say I'm not keen to see them but am curious if anyone here had a chance to see them before they were taken down? His involvement is unknown beyond that, however he is good friends with J and Misters Q, B, and P. He is not a suspect in this crime. Kelsi German, sister of Libby German, tweeted on Monday after the police press conference: We got him. "What we're hearing from sources indicates that this is connected," said Aine Cain, co-host of The Murder Sheet. Sixth, you will notice I use the editorial we. Mr. B: Mr. B is a former police officer in a nearby town and a good friend of J and Misters P, Q, and F. I believe he was in his mid-30s at the time of the crime. "He created a completely false persona for himself," Kevin Greenlee, co-host of The Murder Sheet, said. Monday 31 October 2022 17:10 , Rachel Sharp. Average Retirement Savings By Age: Are You Normal? A gag order on the investigation remains in place. Indiana Lt Governor Suzanne Crouch has spoken out about the development in the Delphi case. Libby Germans sister Kelsi German wrote we got him on Twitter on Monday, after police delivered a press conference announing charges had been filed against local man Richard Allen. I think you donated with a different email but I just approved you. WebIn this special installment of True Crime Daily The Podcast: An update on the Delphi murder case. Hi, Robert. Also, there were what appeared to be memorial flowers left inside the barn. More than 70,000 tips have been sent in by the public in the almost six years since Libby and Abby were murdered. We are calling him Mr. F because he was the father of the fetus the 14 year old girl was carrying. Mr Allen is a trained pharmaceutical technician and worked at the local CVS store in the heart of Delphi, Indiana where the two teenagers lived with their families before their brutal murders. *, We got him. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have drawn international attention. 2023 www.indystar.com. Fridays rulings are the latest update in the small Midwestern communitys nearly six-year ordeal that began when Liberty and Abigails bodies were discovered on Delphi Historic Trails on Valentines Day 2017 one day after they went missing during a school holiday. Police in Indiana have charged a 50-year-old local man with the 2017 Delphi murders more than five years after the bodies of best friends Libby German and Abby Williams were found close to a wooded trail. Also, one of the nations top experts on serial killers has expressed interest in joining us in trying to solve this crime, as has a female homicide detective who ran an 80-person unit in France. The photo apparently featured the coroner with the bodies of the two girls. It showed up quickly within a week of the murders when a local young man published photos of the crime scene that he had somehow obtained. Could it be that this guardian, a very religious man by all accounts, is anti-abortion and opposed this abortion plan? The next day Valentines Day 2017 their bodies were discovered in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. But maybe they have cracked. He may have helped set up the crime scene, but we have no evidence of that. Chillingly, the warrant stated the killer may have taken a "souvenir" but added that "the rest of [the girls'] clothing was recovered.". Could it be that Mr. F told J and Misters P, Q, and B about his plight with the girl who would not abort? 2: The creekside in the little cove-like area where the Sons of Odin would have taken the clumps of hair from each girl. A scalpel was also found at the scene. Indiana State Police would only confirm they have a dive team in the area. If any other person had any involvement in the murders in any way, that person will be held accountable, said Indiana State Police Supt Doug Carter. Officials from multiple law enforcement agencies including Indiana State Police, the Carroll County Sheriffs Office, Carroll County Prosecutors Office and the US Marshal Service as well as members of the victims families are scheduled to hold a press conference shortly. Mr Allen, a trained pharmaceutical technician who worked in the store in the heart of the small town of Delphi, processed some of the photos for the family and didnt charge them for the images when they went in to collect them. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Our source was adamant about that. Delphi resident, age 49 at the time of the crime, otherwise unremarkable person. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Libby German, 14, and Abby Wiliams, 13, went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. Law enforcement will not reveal what the evidence was that led to Mr Allens arrest per a court order. The trial for the suspect accused of murdering two girls in Delphi, Indiana, nearly six years ago will use jurors bused in from another county, a judge ruled Friday. He seems like a normal guy, he said. Perhaps the crime was perpetrated here and the girls were moved to the staged scene by the creek to create the serial killer motif? One wonders how this killer could have had enough medical knowledge to conduct a Jack the Ripper like operation on a victim. Some things will be stated as fact. Is it possible that this operation was done in order to remove the uterus of a pregnant girl? Close friends with Misters P, B, Q, and F. Listed as a possible suspect in the crime. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old married Delphi man, was taken into custody on Wednesday (26 October) and booked into Carroll County Jail. And police cadaver dogs absolutely searched that barn. What if a search party member reported that it was true that one of the girls was seen in this condition at the crime scene? Kegan Kline, 28, admitted to using a phony social media account with the handle "anthony_shots" to communicate with minors, Indiana State Police say. The police think he is the man who actually conducted the murders, and they Perhaps Mr. X also felt the girl should abort. They vanished the day before, having last been seen walking along the Manon High Bridge in the Delphi Historic Trails. A MAN was reportedly arrested in connection to the murders of 14-year-old Liberty German and 13-year-old Abigail Williams who were killed in 2017. Mr. F: A young man, 20 years old at the time of the crime, now 24 years old. He is due back in court in January 202 for a pre-trial hearing. An arrest has been made, said Doug Carter, superintendent of Indiana State Police. In order to determine if either girl could have been pregnant, unfortunately we had to do an investigation into their personal lives. The photo shows Richard Allen, 50, smiling alongside his wife Kathy in a local bar in Delphi, Indiana the small, closeknit community where he has lived for more than 15 years and where victims Libby German and Abby Williams lived with their families before their brutal killings. We will say more then. He subsequently pleaded not guilty and is being held without bond. She shared the mugshot of the man accused of killing her sister and the police press release. A witness told investigators he saw a small, dark-colored SUV parked on the side of the old Child Protective Service building Feb. 13, 2017, and believed the vehicle was backed in to conceal the license plate. Delphi murder victims family says suspect was hiding in plain sight, Man arrested worked at local CVS store in heart of Delphi, Local man Richard Allen, 50, arrested in connection to murders, Indiana State Police to hold press conference about case, Richard Allen posed for smiling selfie in front of police sketch of suspect. However, a female search party member has stated that one girls abdominal cavity was excavated. The family of one of the Delphi victims has revealed that they had a chilling encounter with the man accused of her murder as they learned that he had been hiding in plain sight the whole time. I was afraid this event had political undertones. They added that Allen had been moved to a state facility for his own safety. What if that were true and not just an idle rumor? VIDEO: Bond hearing for Richard Allen is et for Feb. 17. "He created a completely false persona for himself," said Kevin Greenlee, co-host of The Murder Sheet. Therefore, we will refer to the 14 year old and the 13 year old. Monday 31 October 2022 20:50 , Rachel Sharp. Kline reportedly admitted to using a fake account to talk with underage girls but denied any involvement in German or William's murders. An affidavit made public in November revealed that the .40-caliber casing found between the girls bodies was traced to a gun owned by Allen. They took photos as they crossed an old rail bridge, and two of these images were uploaded to Snapchat. Its up to you to put it all together. Click here to read the entire document if you cannot view it below. Bottom line is a girl was pregnant is absolutely the key to this crime. If the source was giving us nonsense and lies, the police would not care at all. Superintendent Carter says further details or documents will not be released regarding the arrest today is not that day. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the Allen is charged with the 2017 murders of 13-year-old Indiana teens Abby Williams and MORE, DELPHI, Ind. Then, they recorded a video, which gave police their best lead to the killer: audio and video evidence.A search party organized by Sheriff Leazanby and the Indiana Police Department began that evening, but the bodies of the two girls weren't found until the next day, February 14, 2017. Kline was arrested in 2020 and was charged with child pornography and child exploitation in another case and has pleaded not guilty to both charges. Mr Allen was arrested on Wednesday before being charged on Friday with two counts of murder. Could it be that we are now all the way back around to our very first theory that we got torn to pieces over a hillbilly abortion? The 14 year old had a cousin, M., who was taking her to bonfire parties where there was a lot of drugs and drinking for a few years from 12-14. If a girl was disembowled and had her abdominal contents removed, a scalpel would have proven handy in that operation in order to cut away tissue. RELATED | New details in Delphi double murder investigation revealed in police interview obtained by podcast. Can't see the file? (AP) An Indiana judge said Tuesday that she will decide soon whether tounseal court recordsthat MORE, Murdaugh and Prosecutor Creighton Waters Went to Law School Together, Prosecutions Best Evidence in Alex Murdaugh Trial, SC v. 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Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. Police confirmed that the case was a double homicide, but have not revealed how the girls died or what evidence they collected. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. I would talk; he wouldnt say much. Its a small county. Here's why. (11/22/22) MORE, By ARLEIGH RODGERS Associated Press/Report for America DELPHI, Ind. Kline has denied any involvement in the murders. The defense and prosecution now have one week to select a county where they can begin to choose a jury. She said he had dark and evil eyes. He is listed by police as a possible suspect in the crime. There is tentatively a press conference Monday at 10 am. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Mr. Q: Another young man, friends with J and Misters F, B, and P, who helped set up the bizarre crime scene. Delphi murder victims family reveal chilling encounter with suspect Richard Allen, Monday 31 October 2022 19:10 , Rachel Sharp. Robinson told the Indianapolis Star. Committed in broad daylight on November 19, 2018, these crimes put Bruce in the spotlight of the press. Some noted his being of similar stature (5-foot-7 to 5-foot-9 inches) to the then-current suspect description in the Delphi slayings; also, his wearing a flat cap and navy-blue jacket during this attack, not unlike the suspect in the Delphi case. Tips can be submitted to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or by calling 765-822-3535. Monday 31 October 2022 15:09 , Rachel Sharp. DELPHI, Ind. (AP) Jurors atthe trialof anIndiana man accused of killing two teenage girlsnearly six years ago MORE, By:James Howell Jr. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. They say the state doesnt have the evidence it needs. He was interrogated by police soon after the crime. Lately they have been careful in how they talk to us. No comments for now, any questions please refer to the Carroll county prosecutor's office. We now have a retired LE homicide detective who worked 75 cases working with our group. 1. *, We got him: Delphi victims sister reacts as Richard Allen charged, Monday 31 October 2022 16:10 , Rachel Sharp. Below is the 12 pages of court documents Allen Superior Court Judge Frances C. Gull issued to be released, including the decision to release a redacted version, murder charges and probable cause affidavit. Citing convenience for the victims families and witnesses, Gull said the cost of relocating Allens trial would prove extraordinary.. pic.twitter.com/jtPz879fnH, Emily Longnecker (@EmilyWTHR) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 16:50 , Rachel Sharp, Monday 31 October 2022 16:30 , Rachel Sharp. Is there a possibility that J and Misters Q and P got together and decided to terrorize this the girl into aborting the child? Further, they arent very nice about it lately. (12/2/22) MORE, VIDEO: A firearms expert explains the unspent round found next to the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana. I wouldn't put any stock in what he claims. pic.twitter.com/dJMlOj3Whs, Kelsi German (@libertyg_sister) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 15:30 , Rachel Sharp. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. Mike Patty told reporters after Mondays press conference that the family does not know suspect Richard Allen but most likely encountered him in their small town of 3,000 people. There is no further information to release at this time. In a move that propelled the investigation forward, Libby German captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a blue jacket and a cap walking along the Could that be the nature of the falling out with this male guardian and Mr. X? Although the investigation continues, an arrest has been made.. Info that did not come from the police in that section is italicized. He is closely associated with one of the families. Mike and Becky Patty, the grandparents of victim Libby German, told reporters after Mondays press conference that they remembered suspected killer Richard Allen serving them one time in the local CVS where he worked. It also shows that police read our website and are onto us and our sleuthing group. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. The witness said she didn't see any other adults than the man on the bridge. Perhaps word got out that if this girl became obviously pregnant, and the 14 year old girls male guardian was threatening to either harm or kill Mr. F or lock him up. Everything we know about the Delphi murders and arrest of Richard Allen, Monday 31 October 2022 18:30 , Rachel Sharp. Allen had no explanation how a shell ejected from his sidearm was found at the scene of the crime, according to the affidavit. The unsolved murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams have disturbed and shocked the nation. I just cant get behind all of these people being involved. And it's having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, that's my dad, or that's my cousin, that's my neighbor, my co-worker. Allen voluntarily went to the Indiana State Police post Oct. 26, 2022, and told investigators he never allowed anyone to use or borrow the Sig Sauer Model 226. *All criminal defendants are to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvhKS1eRIMM. They both turned ashen white in the face and didnt say anything. Instead statements are posed as hypotheticals, theories, possible theories, and above all questions. And perhaps an older man these young men knew, a 49 year old man named Mr. X, got into the mix somehow. On the other hand, he is very charming, but most of these types are like that. Fourth, The term guardian below refers to either a mother, a grandmother, or a grandfather. The first speaker at the press conference is Doug Carter, superintendent of the Indiana State Police. Third, it appears the facts of this case are so much more horrible than we ever thought. Richard Allen, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charges at an initial hearing and is being held without bond at White County Jail. Here is the full statement regarding the arrest of Richard Allen. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspect in the case and have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. After all, a gut knife included in the five knives that BG has in that deer kit he is wearing around his waist. Your email address will not be published. He got out of jail seven months before the crime. Indiana State Police announced at a press conference on Monday morning, Chicago police chief, U.S. attorney resign after Mayor Lori Lightfoot loses reelection. "Guys, down the hill," the man says on the recording. We are not going to list the names of any of the main player or others involved in this case at the moment, or possibly ever. Libby, 14, and Abby, 13, were murdered after setting off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi on 13 February 2017. He called me a few weeks ago in the morning and we talked at length about the crime. Press J to jump to the feed. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Allen, 50, who worked as a pharmacy technician at CVS in Delphi, a town of about 3,000 people, has been charged with two counts of murder. Obviously, quickly taken down, etc etc. I had the smiley face for McCain Signature Smiles that I happened to run on to at my grocery store, and for the non-secular I remember Carter showing a picture of a person in white sheets with a turbine and felt there might have been a quaran left there too. Thank you for this comment. Allen said he saw girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge before he went to the Monon High Bridge to watch the fish. Who is Richard Allen the man arrested over the 2017 Delphi murders? His trial date has been set for 20 March 2023. The warrant says it is likely the killer had blood stains on his clothes, although no one has ever been arrested for the girls' murders. It was my understanding that a local news channel had posted 1 crime scene photo to their Facebook page, and that it was of clothing in the creek. CARROLL COUNTY, Ind. Monday 31 October 2022 15:50 , Rachel Sharp. Police investigators released clips of the audio and video footage to the public. He reminds the assembled media that when someone is arrested they are considered innocent until proven guilty. Monday 31 October 2022 14:13 , Oliver O'Connell, Richard Allen is facing two counts of murder in the Delphi Investigation @WNDU pic.twitter.com/FE4U1npkyp, Lauren Moss WNDU (@LMossWNDU) October 31, 2022, Monday 31 October 2022 14:11 , Oliver O'Connell. An official trial date with be set at Allens bond hearing on Feb. 17. In a statement posted on her Facebook page, she wrote: I want to thank the Indiana State Police and all the other law enforcement and community partners who have worked tirelessly to find closure for the families of Libby German and Abby Williams. This task force has worked diligently the last five and a half years to ensure this horrendous crime did not go unsolved. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Thanks for contacting us. Rachel Sharp has been following the case. Thanks for joining us! The murder(s) probably didnt find the tiny fetus. People are told to contact Indiana State Police with information not only about Mr Allen but about any other information regarding the case. He was always nice. Example video title will go here for this video. I am proud to say that today actually last Friday that today is the day. Ms German shared Mr Allens mugshot and the police press release about the development, adding in a follow-up tweet: *innocent until proven guilty. Indiana State Police said that the briefing will begin promptly at 10am EST. He is now a 21 year old man. I've read several places online that at least one photo from the crime scene was uploaded to a forum, then quickly taken down. Thanks. 00:50, Rachel Sharp. If any other person had any involvement in the murders in any way, that person will be held accountable, said Indiana State Police Supt Doug Carter in Mondays press conference. Investigators spoke with Richard Allen in 2017, who said he was on the trail from 1:30 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017. We just figured out much more about this crime. Here are new details from the probable cause affidavit on the Delphi murders: NOTE: 13News is aware of media reports claiming a clerical error led to a delay in arresting Allen. The investigation is far from complete, state police superintendent Doug Carter said at a news conference on Monday as he urged the community to come forward with more information. Some of us call the source The Riddler in reference to the Batman show. A great case map of the area with important markings. Copyright 2023 ABC News Internet Ventures. Why was the tree gouged out like a beaver had sawed on it with teeth? WebThe unsolved murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams have disturbed and shocked the nation. Members of the public were urged to continue to submit tips not only about Richard Allen but about any other information regarding the case. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! Remember that video We have a secret? released the night before the crime where both girls are holding up their fingers in the secret signal? Just days before the podcast hosts say that river search began, a court document obtained by ABC News shows that Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities to the hands of Indiana State Police, the lead investigators in the murders of Abby and Libby. Its concerning that hes a local guy, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said upon Allens arrest. Is it possible that the killer was a very avid deer hunter? (11/29/22) MORE, VIDEO: Prosecutors in the case of murdered teen girls Abby Williams and Libby German say defendant Richard Allen may have had an accomplice. Carter said in a press conference: "We know a lot about you today could be the day -- sleep well.". Mr. F was looking at possible incarceration for banging a 14 year old girl and then 18 years of child support. Also, I wish to make these posts less egocentric. We call him Mr. Q because his identity is not known at this time. The murderer would have been covered in the victims blood in the aftermath of the slayings due to the large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, it reads. We believe he met criteria for Conduct Disorder as a youth and may have trended into Antisocial Personal Disorder as an adult. INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) After learning this week that the judge in the Delphi murders case appointed two public defenders for suspect Richard Allen, I-Team This is why. He has a criminal record mostly for repeated drunk driving offenses. He described the In a followup tweet she added: *innocent until proven guilty. A Carroll County Sheriff's Department detective, who has been part of the investigation since it started, believes the evidence gathered shows that Allen is the man seen on the video from German's phone who forced the girls down the hill. We have learned that the police are investigating who in the police is leaking to us, which shows our facts are correct. Richard Matthew Allen, from Delphi, Indiana, was taken into custody on Wednesday (26 October) and booked into Carroll County Jail. If not, I get it, believe me! The video that was sent to me of the $300,000,000 property in California with the wings like the wings in Wapotek, is that a Saudi compound? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJpL25ygt8c, Mr. F the 20 year old boy who impregnated the 14 year old. 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